I read a post concerning a very old theory of the lifespan of democracy. It describes stages of the eventual fall of democracies over a two hundred year span on average. It is linked down this page.

This was offered with no apparent answers, except a harangue over illegal immigration, and presumably, some kind of wake up call to arms. I expect some of that immigration is helping the profit bottom lines of many of those assumed to be the holier ones in the democratic cultures scenario as presented in the second list.

It goes on to list many sometimes irrelevant facts to create the impression that dependence on the government till, by unworthy types, spells doom for a culture. That may be true, but who you think is benefiting from the government; such as the military/industrial/congressional/corporate complex, is not on the apparent radar.

Instead, vast generalizations are offered that are open to argument over who meets which of the old theory’s stage progressions downward, and in what way. Get your eraser (NOT)!, cause it will not be mentioned. Nor is there a mention of corporate world hegemony growing ever more influential, to the extent that voting itself in many of the worlds democracies begins to seem futile to alter any direction a nations seems headed, except for inward nationalism or religious orthodoxy.


This now world wide competition, and at times collusion, of special wealth privilege and or religious interest, and their special influence over democracy; such as setting intellectual agendas and viability’s of ideas open for change, not a note. Not one iota of a hint that these forces, these now extra national forces, are themselves contouring democracy to suit their needs.

To read the spin of selected facts, some curious, and most open to interpretation by the philosophy you prefer, has a near panic atmosphere, generated by the stretched logic needed to construe a predictions fulfilment in print. (The sky may be falling, but there is a difference between rain and a cometary impact.) Odd things, like the number of states and land area won by Bush and Gore in 2000. As if land itself is voting.

Remember, in the whole presentation, it is never mentioned that Gore won the popular vote. That voters were selectively targeted to extinguish their chance of having a vote. Nor is it mentioned that the government under Bush is racking up a phenomenal government bill that we all must pay one way or the other. The war industry if profiting mightily, though at our expense. One way we will pay, may well be democracies collapse. Bias is best hidden right under ones own nose.


How the poor are left in a poor state educationally and locationally, and most importantly, ignored in their psychological needs in regards to the country, is not there. The resulting existential plague of who is more worthy than who as human beings, is a good study in hidden bias as a revelation of cherry picked facts meant to fit a theory. (WE have been there as a nation. Still doing that.) Some of the assumed more glorious phases of our democracy did not allow women and Blacks to vote, even allowed for the old fashioned form of slavery. Abstractions can be a handy place to keep just what I like.

That the poor are, now as ever, a necessary scapegoat and recruiting pool for undesirable and underpaid work to benefit the few, is of course missing in action. These are my points of view pertaining to what was left out of the two specious, yet easily manipulative list.

That said; here is the post of loaded and slanted philosophical notions about who is a deserving citizen.

I better give you that post; Fwd: This is an eye opener

Eye opener indeed.

If that opened my eyes to its world view, might have well put the coins back over them. Otherwise, while I am alive, you can wake me up when honest to goodness human truth is being presented, and not cognitive dissonance embedded in reaction to insecurity propped up fear.

We are not apathetic as a nation, because we are fat and weak from the government tax and spend till. Apathy is more likely the byproduct of those who see their votes repeatedly add up to nothing, even when they win.


Now we do not now know if our votes are even counted anymore. Not with the absolute certainty at least approachable with a paper trail. I do not know how well a democracy can survive when one party just tried to gain permanence, let alone that money determines much of any candidates exposure in the long run. What of our candidates actual “right” to lie? “I implore you not to look behind the curtain! I am the great and powerful, decider?”

Power interest is as power interest does. Wake up and smell the reality of who controls information and why we are so uniformed of our countries (actually special interest) actions in the world. Until we are shocked out of complacency by the blow-back of that ignorance of the world, and fall into another reactive cycles quagmire.

I do not need theories and questionable list to vote. I need the honest truth!


It is usually called patriotism.

It can be flag waving, lots of flags everywhere, Nazis and communist do that to. It is usually some test of abstraction to determine in the abstract, if you are for those promoting the abstraction from their own angle, or against it. Against it in their definition equates with I, or you being opposite that abstraction; say freedom. To be against it equals something akin to being a traitor, seditious, or ungrateful to the place where that abstraction abides in the testers mind and intentions. But is implied to pertain to everyone as such! No other views about it. You then become the target of loathing and a parade of persecution, if it can be taken (manipulated, construed) that you implied differently than the framed parameters of one groups definition of an abstraction.


It happened to the Jews is Nazi Germany. A cult takes over that many thought was just a fringe movement. Then it puts up its own purity test, then targets those unwilling or unable to pass (nose size?), for the test was meant to rid the nation of those who look or think differently. The abstraction, the Grand Good Thing, has become a vehicle of subjective bias into minds who support good things, perhaps unknowing that that goodness has been altered to be unconcerned with much objective perception.

It is alleged that Jesus Christ faced this same scrutiny from status quo conservative interest at the time called the Scribes and Pharisees. They questioned him in his allegiance to their own sides view of noble cause, as if that were the only cause of confirmed truth. Why did He hang around with the unwashed poor, the sinners and outcast of society? Why is it that He finds value there and not with the distinguished citizens and interest of the status quo’s conceptually pinned down paradigm? (power interest know where their own interest lay) In the end; So you think you are a king? Well we agree. Here is your bloody crown then. The dominator sycophants cheer.


Terror and mystification are routinely applied across history, for entitled minority interest to control the whole of the public. It may be hidden behind law, it is the safest place to hide self serving deceptions, there and in religio-spiritual interpretation, that leaves the target audience, fearful and contained in a dominator paradigm. Questioning it framed as consorting will ill or evil cause.

Conservative interest usually are the originator of these test, but any totalitarian interest would promulgate them into the culture. I’m sure that men who wanted women to vote were considered, effeminate or emasculated. Whites who stood up for blacks as equals under God and the Nations founding intention, where considered enemies of their own people by, yep, fear based insecurity driven conservative interest.

We now have money as symbolic power of the beholders, all that makes someone “big” someone of substance and influence automatically, and religio-spiritual charlatans, also usually very wealthy in the background. these “naturally” come to see both corporate interest and church interest as primary, against the will of the many, by assuming they have the right to control and manipulate the population, because money and position allows them access to.

Some conservatives of the Constitution, The Bill of Rights and even the Bible, actually stood up for the rights of Blacks and Woman as human beings, deserving the same treatment under the law. These would have been called names such as “blank” lovers. Plus much else of the vile and vitriol that these kinds of demonizers spend so much of their consciousness roiling in, for their own spiritually self punitive reasons.


Watering down the abstract conceptual purity of a status quo, the entitled have’s, or otherwise oligarchies interest, produces in them defensive fear. In that sense then, only what is good for them is to be held good by you, the dependent on them public. An abstraction, a symbol, then can stand in as your sub-servitude to a dominator’s point of view. Those fawning and wanting respect from the “big” to rub off onto their own lives, must then scurry out to test the population.

Now you are in the intended place; subjected to propaganda disguised as emotionalized fact, and guided by implied fear and terror into conforming to the elites interest mindset. The implied high minded and holier than thou symbol, now used as a club, on freedom, self responsibility, and full expression of the self into life; life as it is in its wholeness of reality, had potentiated in you. A subjective interest can masquerade as the interest of all. The followers are in the objective sense, slaves to both fear and terror. Loyal and patriotic pawns of special interest.


The attacks on the very nature of freedom and responsibility often spew from the mouths who claim to represent just those things. Cults who attempt to control consensus reality and personal identity of all followers, need to see themselves differently from the whole population, yet hold that whole of society up to their myopic standard. Here is where the test of some symbol often is used as a wedge to use fear as the threat to conform, or else. We are seeing these test show up from the right wing as they usually do at election times.

Usually flag burning, or the pledge of allegiance, come around as a fake test of patriotism. Once, not so long ago, it was long hair and bell-bottom pants hippies. They are used as wedge against alleged liberal indifference or antagonism towards the notion the conservatives hold as abstractly sacred, but which they maintain as reality check impaired.


I have read post on this site host, where not wearing a pin, or not putting your hand over your heart, shows you are in essence, one of the enemy, or minimally a bad guy or gal at heart. What a pile of deception.

Firstly, knowing politics, I would trust a photo as being taken out of context, just as many words are used in context of false association and comparison. But even more importantly, where was it ever said that you were to act like a robot to be certified perfect? The pledge of allegiance was originally written, not so long ago historically, by a socialist. I can understand at that time the Utopian dream that suddenly, all would fall into line into a beautiful society of equals who’s symbol would be used as a collective hammer to mold the group into a loving cohesive whole; an abstract pledge. A whole of act a-likes, unable and afraid to stand out. Cowering in a bonding psyche stranglehold of a mass action, afraid to stand up for their own allegiance to truth, God and nation. Instead of to one groups self serving interpretation of it.

That kind of leftist Utopian conservatism hybrid was a made to order weapon on the right. Adjust a word, later, throw in God, and now everyone acting alike would be alike. (conservatives primarily separation motivated delusion that appearance and behavior actually demonstrates union) It is peer pressure and threat of ostracism of the non conformist, (ancient tactics of shame) codified in the song, the salute, the seig heil, the flag, whatever the symbol of conformity is, even a cross of execution. It may be fine until it is used as a test of loyalty, for then we have left the realms of truth, justice or honesty, and entered the convoluted matrix of power and control. It is freedom of thought and being the abstraction throwers hate. It is free thought that is their nemesis.


Why would they fear the individuals own test of truth over the imposed collectivist one? It seems to oppose the favored conditions they associate in their psyche with the symbol, that seems to place them above the worlds of “others”. Others whose identity is now molded into a duck in a fear based shooting gallery.

Many a libertarian opposes the left and the right for these very status quo attempts to control their own unique nature. In that, I see the founding’s of the libertarian fears. Remember the “Dixie Chicks” (country music group of three woman) just telling their own feelings to other human beings, was seen as betrayal, because it did not pander to power.

It is now an implied betrayal amongst these kinds of conservatives, to tell the truth of your feelings to others. George Orwell would be shocked at how fast and furiously, freedom is stabbed in the back in the name of freedom, and all because of not conforming to a machine like mindset, too timid and ashamed or shivering to speak your own truth. Land of the free and home of the brave indeed.



I started writing this post when I heard that right wingers, (conservatives, certain kinds of conservatives, whatever one wished to tag the fear merchants with,) when these people let up an uproar when one Black presidential candidates Black wife said; “People in this country are ready for change and hungry for a different kind of politics and … for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.” As I often say, context is everything, it can even make a word seem its opposite when it is taken out of context.

Whatever kinds of conservatives these were, they were shocked and appalled that this meant she had no pride in her country until her husband was a top candidate. What an insult to the nation it was, implying there was nothing for her to be proud of until her interest somehow is benefiting from how America is. The context was about her own view of hope from her conditional to subjective reference viewpoint! Not theirs!

Well, if you have read my post and pages, you will see how this nation, clothed in some minds in glorious abstraction, actually treats its citizens and those who have served it in battle. Bring that truth up and you are against your country? Or are you telling the truth as you know it, because you love your country, standing up for freedom by applying it! A natural desire to change the nation for the betterment of all, not just elites.


Another candidates allegedly politically savy wife, brought the other woman’s words up as a contrast to her husband who was imprisoned by the enemy while serving his country. In effect this throws one persons past context into an others experience as being some kind of opposite. When in fact there is a large element of apples and oranges in the comparison of historical fact to an off the cuff personal reflection of current hopeful experience. Both are entitled to their feelings are they not? But have we really seen an opposite proved to be true?

Her comment even seems understandably true; why would you not be exceedingly proud to see a barrier that seems to represent oppression in the land of the free broken? Particularly one so personal to your own roots. Seems patriotic to the very core identity of American independence. Cultist hate independence. I doubt if there would be any “fire storm” if the primary “Christian” candidate said he was never so proud of his country since they are embracing Christ via his candidacy?

There might be some rumblings by the left and libertarians, plus constitutionally minded conservatives who know the necessity of church and state separations as independence defenses built into the constitution. I predict in this opinion that these latter ones who bring up questions would be treated as oddities, who are part of the problem of moral decline. Probably would hear much as well, about persecuting a Christian, and why you are against people being proud of their religion and Savior.

Suddenly we would hear all the nuance and ambiguities in handling a candidates unbridled excitement about his religious and soon to be government connections.


When the public is in the position it is now in; left helpless to consolidated corporate media interest; manipulated by ideologically driven “fact” to emotionalized conclusion; left disabled and unwilling to challenge the ruling paradigm due ignorance, societal disconnection and doubt, we are in need of hope as never before.

If superman or superwoman are not dropping in to stand up for truth and justice united as the American Way. It is up to each of us to so stand, uniting the abstractions from the ground up and not the elite down position we are so accustomed to as inevitable.

We The People, as the actual land of the free and home of the brave. Well, that requires each one to act that way does it not? But cowering to some test of political interest and pundits who profit off of promoting divisions to enable elites? Afraid if we hold our hand “right” or where a pin like all the others are? That is the land of the ashamed of freedom and home of the subservient to other human masters, instead of the true One.

People write about their pride and goose bump feelings at large events when the Star Spangled Banner is sung. It is a song made to elicit that kind of response, but en mass, we humans feel part of something infinitely larger. Other countries and groups know of this phenomenon. With the Pledge of Allegiance to start of the day in Catholic school, one just did what one was asked. You could even feel that common purpose from doing a common thing that is directed toward something greater. It is good to feel part of something grand.

But for years I had that same sense even while not knowing the proper wording. I thought it said; and to the Republic where witches stand… That even added more mystery for me. I had heard about the Salem witch trials.

I am always proud of America for its dreams, and its daring to be a home for the individual to live both freely and responsibly. Yet I have no illusions that the old warlord dominator ways are not always trying to retake this land and all lands from the Common One. I have no pride in the attempts of prejudice, to masquerade as honor, nor robot conformity to define freedom.